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« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2013, 04:02:39 PM »
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I see perfectly what you're not getting here.  There is a difference between the private and commercial sale of firearms and you're not making that distinction.
Felons, gangs, etc. don't purchase firearmsfrom commercial businesses precisely because the background check system (NICS) prevents them from doing this.
The issue is how do you implement a system that prevents felons et al from acquiring firearms from private sales without infringing upon the rights of law biding citizens.  If you can't think of a way that doesn't infringe on the rights of people, then there shouldn't be such a system in place. 

I see you agree with my point, but then fail to make the connection that it doesn't stop them from finding an illegal supplier anyway.

And I agree that you cannot implement any system that prevents criminals from obtaining weapons without infringing on law abiding citizens.

Does anybody here really NOT believe that more felons and fugitives would buy guns if background checks were done away with? Really?
Agreed, why bother having any preventative measure ever?

No where did I say we should do away with background checks for commercial sales of firearms. I only stated that requiring a background check for every firearm transaction (ie private sales) is pointless since only law abiding people would comply with such a law.

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« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2013, 04:42:32 PM »
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« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2013, 04:58:33 PM »
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Then why bother doing background checks at all? Just say "felons and people w/domestic violence raps can't buy guns" and use the honor system?

I'm just saying it's pointless either way. Background checks are a feel good idea that do little to actually stop bad people from getting their hands on weapons.

No, it's not pointless.  The current background check system for the commercial sale of firearms is actually extremely effective at preventing felons from purchasing a firearm. 
Not only is it a deterrent, "Can't buy a gun legally at the store so why even bother trying when they just gonna deny me?", it also prevents felons from buying guns.

So why not extend it to private transactions?

I'm glad background checks make you feel better about the world you live in, but the reality is that criminals do not follow the law, and thus make things like background checks pointless. From a business standpoint I get it. They don't want to be liable for selling a gun to someone who shouldn't have one, but that doesn't change how criminals are obtaining guns.
Usually someone who can purchase the gun legally does so, but with the intent of selling it to someone who cannot pass the background check. Thats called a straw purchase, and its a felony. EVEN that law doesn't stop people from doing it.

See what I'm getting at here?

I see perfectly what you're not getting here.  There is a difference between the private and commercial sale of firearms and you're not making that distinction.
Felons, gangs, etc. don't purchase firearmsfrom commercial businesses precisely because the background check system (NICS) prevents them from doing this.
The issue is how do you implement a system that prevents felons et al from acquiring firearms from private sales without infringing upon the rights of law biding citizens.  If you can't think of a way that doesn't infringe on the rights of people, then there shouldn't be such a system in place.

I think what you're trying to say is that it's fine for businesses to have to follow regulations but if a private citizen wants to sell a gun and they have to deal with they buyer going through a background check it's a horrible thing because that's not how they did it in George Washington's day or something.

But there's a lot of private commerce that's regulated. I can't sell a car to another private citizen w/o filing with the DMV for a title change and the buyer has to pay sales tax. How is that any different? Nobody's freaking out about freedoms there.

It's true that having gun show purchases be regulated is a pain, and it infringes upon people's freedom to not have to do paperwork and shit. But it's a very minor pain in relation to how much it can prevent even more felonious purchases, as you already agree that NICS does with commercial sales.

I know that even that step won't fully prevent felons from getting firearms but it makes it a bit more difficult, which is a good thing.

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« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2013, 06:15:02 PM »
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tbh I find it worrisome that private citizens would be able to execute background checks on other citizens. I think things are already spiralling out of control now; get arrested once and your mugshot and record are online for the world to see after a 30 second google search.

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« Reply #79 on: August 22, 2013, 06:50:37 PM »
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tbh I find it worrisome that private citizens would be able to execute background checks on other citizens. I think things are already spiralling out of control now; get arrested once and your mugshot and record are online for the world to see after a 30 second google search.
Agreed but as you say they already can.  Maybe a service that just replies to a query for one's name/ssn/dob or whatever with "yep sell him a gun" or "nope better not" with no reasons?

Meh I'm not convinced it's a big enough problem to worry with but I do like the idea of keeping (at least legal) guns out of the hands of as many felons (niggers) as possible.
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« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2013, 07:02:24 PM »
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« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2013, 07:53:17 PM »
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So why not extend it to private transactions?


Because there's no system in place to facilitate background checks for private citizens. 

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I think what you're trying to say is that it's fine for businesses to have to follow regulations but if a private citizen wants to sell a gun and they have to deal with they buyer going through a background check it's a horrible thing because that's not how they did it in George Washington's day or something.

But there's a lot of private commerce that's regulated. I can't sell a car to another private citizen w/o filing with the DMV for a title change and the buyer has to pay sales tax. How is that any different? Nobody's freaking out about freedoms there.

It's true that having gun show purchases be regulated is a pain, and it infringes upon people's freedom to not have to do paperwork and shit. But it's a very minor pain in relation to how much it can prevent even more felonious purchases, as you already agree that NICS does with commercial sales.

I know that even that step won't fully prevent felons from getting firearms but it makes it a bit more difficult, which is a good thing.

lol no.  I really don't wanna have gun control debate, but look, you can't mandate that every private citizen conduct a background check when selling a firearm and then not provide the infrastructure and system for them to do it.  Right now you have the NICS for background checks, but, surprise, you and I can't use it.
Until liberals are willing come up with some sort of background checking system that citizens can use freely without cost or for a small fee ($5) that ensures the privacy of all parties involved, I'm not willing to support ~Universal Background Checks~.
And another thing, if a person has their Concealed Carry license, they should be exempt from any other background checks.  Getting your concealed carry license involves one of the most thorough background checks you can get right now.  You even gotta give them your finger prints and shit.  If the state is willing to allow you, as a private citizen, to carry a concealed gun around until the day you die, then why the fuck do you have to go through a background check every time you purchase a gun? 
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« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2013, 08:17:17 PM »
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tbh I find it worrisome that private citizens would be able to execute background checks on other citizens. I think things are already spiralling out of control now; get arrested once and your mugshot and record are online for the world to see after a 30 second google search.

this and

if we dont want felons to get guns, why are felons out of prison? :jesse:

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« Reply #83 on: August 22, 2013, 08:20:17 PM »
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I don't know who's gonna debate that with you because I don't think anyone ITT wants to ban guns.

Nothing wrong with a background check that takes minutes to determine the legality of a gun purchase. I honestly don't know why you guys oppose background checks to weed out felons and fugitives, since it would disproportionately affect niggers it seems like a great idea. Yes, criminals will still get guns through illegal means, but that just forces them to commit yet another crime in order to get one, hopefully leading to stiffer sentences and more prison time. Hell, they may even be caught with it during a traffic stop or drug bust before they commit a violent crime with it.

i dont really care what effect it has on crime. its the basis for a database, and it can be used as a tool to deny people access to firearms. if i were to argue that a law is good or bad based on its effect on crime or safety i would be arguing the pros or cons of a social engineering program rather than outright rejecting the immorality of social engineering itself

and its run by the feds

"Oh no! Not the Bilderberg Gun Database! Now they will be able to send their Black Helicopters to take my guns and fully actualize the Reptiloid/Jewish Agenda!!" :tinfoil:

uhh gun control? background checks are a form of gun control?

also ps you're talking to someone who lives in a country where all the guns were confiscated!!!!

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« Reply #84 on: August 22, 2013, 08:21:24 PM »
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MORE nigs gonna nig

Broward couple assaults Dunkin’ Donuts server over wrong coffee order
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/21/3578064/broward-couple-assaults-dunkin.html

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A Lauderhill couple assaulted and pistol-whipped an employee at a Dunkin’ Donuts on Tuesday for getting their coffee order wrong, police said.

Arrested was Jeffrey Wright, 27, charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, and his wife, Alexis Longo, 22, charged with simple battery.

The lunchtime melee over the wrong coffee order, which was captured by the eatery’s surveillance camera, began at about 1 p.m. when the couple went through the drive-thru and placed their order.

After discovering that Longo’s coffee order was wrong — she wanted vanilla in her coffee and got caramel — Wright and his wife parked their car and went inside the Dunkin’ Donuts at 7125 W. Oakland Park Blvd. in Lauderhill, according to a police report.

The two asked to speak with the manager but before he arrived an argument broke out between the couple and the person who took their order.


Longo approached and tried to hit the employee. Her husband jumped in and a melee broke out near the front door.

Other customers attempted to break up the fight, the video shows. In the middle of the pushing and shoving, Wright pulled out a 9mm handgun and began to pistol-whip the employee over the head.

Lauderhill police arrived and arrested the couple.

Wright is a security guard and has a concealed weapons permit, police said.

His bond was set at $20,000; Longo’s was set at $1,000.

Whole thing was captured on security footage too.

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« Reply #85 on: August 22, 2013, 08:23:32 PM »
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Pornography is legally protected free speech, but you still have to prove that you're legally eligible to buy it(i.e., you are of age), and transferring pornography in your legal possession to minors, even with the willing consent of both parties, is illegal. Requiring someone to verify that they are legally eligible to exercise certain constitutional rights does not constitute infringement upon those rights.

pornography is not regulated at a federal level, so the constitution has nothing to do with it?

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« Reply #86 on: August 22, 2013, 08:30:35 PM »
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Pornography is legally protected free speech, but you still have to prove that you're legally eligible to buy it(i.e., you are of age), and transferring pornography in your legal possession to minors, even with the willing consent of both parties, is illegal. Requiring someone to verify that they are legally eligible to exercise certain constitutional rights does not constitute infringement upon those rights.

pornography is not regulated at a federal level, so the constitution has nothing to do with it?

pornography production is
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« Reply #87 on: August 22, 2013, 09:10:06 PM »
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MORE nigs gonna nig

Broward couple assaults Dunkin’ Donuts server over wrong coffee order
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/21/3578064/broward-couple-assaults-dunkin.html

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A Lauderhill couple assaulted and pistol-whipped an employee at a Dunkin’ Donuts on Tuesday for getting their coffee order wrong, police said.

Arrested was Jeffrey Wright, 27, charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, and his wife, Alexis Longo, 22, charged with simple battery.

The lunchtime melee over the wrong coffee order, which was captured by the eatery’s surveillance camera, began at about 1 p.m. when the couple went through the drive-thru and placed their order.

After discovering that Longo’s coffee order was wrong — she wanted vanilla in her coffee and got caramel — Wright and his wife parked their car and went inside the Dunkin’ Donuts at 7125 W. Oakland Park Blvd. in Lauderhill, according to a police report.

The two asked to speak with the manager but before he arrived an argument broke out between the couple and the person who took their order.


Longo approached and tried to hit the employee. Her husband jumped in and a melee broke out near the front door.

Other customers attempted to break up the fight, the video shows. In the middle of the pushing and shoving, Wright pulled out a 9mm handgun and began to pistol-whip the employee over the head.

Lauderhill police arrived and arrested the couple.

Wright is a security guard and has a concealed weapons permit, police said.

His bond was set at $20,000; Longo’s was set at $1,000.

Whole thing was captured on security footage too.

20 years in prison IMO. 
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« Reply #88 on: August 22, 2013, 09:15:19 PM »
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« Reply #89 on: August 22, 2013, 09:21:19 PM »
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Two niggers beat a WWII veteran to death.
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Spokane police are looking for two male suspects in the attack. They said the suspects are African Americans between 16 and 19 years old. One suspect was described as heavy set and wearing all black clothing. The other was described as being about 6 feet tall and 150 pounds. There was no description of what clothing the second suspect was wearing other than a silk do-rag.


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« Reply #90 on: August 23, 2013, 03:00:46 AM »
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Sorry guys, but we're going to just have to live with the fact that certain rights have certain responsibilities, and that you can't get to a '100% background check' without a gun registry.  Its not an easy solution, but until this country can stop being so fucked poz'd and deal with its nigger problem, any hand wringing is just offering your throat to the knife.

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« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2013, 04:04:37 AM »
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« Reply #92 on: August 23, 2013, 04:59:29 AM »
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Regardless of what is to be done or not done about private gun sales, does anyone think that the background check that exists for commercial sales should include mental health records? You don't get your driving license renewed if you have Parkinson's, and you shouldn't get to buy guns if you need a cocktail of anti-psychotics to not hulk out on your daily commute. Plus the average nutso is less likely than the average felon to know someone who sells illegal guns.

btw I agree with what Soul Tran said - for privacy's sake, gun resellers don't need to know anything more about their customer's background check than "YES" or "NO"

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« Reply #93 on: August 23, 2013, 05:11:59 AM »
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"I'm gonna let you out of prison now and I better not catch you doing a no-no... Don't even try it because everybody under my control is forced to subscribe[sic] to a system of mandatory background checks pending all purchases pertaining to their right of self-defense (a property right) which you don't have but will be granted all other rights because
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Did you faggots ever consider the possibility that maybe the STATE'S JUSTICE[sic] SYSTEM is about as good as your gay arguments for coercive action on law-abiding, free men to make them more [your values, not mine, and definitely not free]?

By the way, background checks aren't free. None of your gay, government social-engineering projects are free, and when you find a way to pay for them without TAXING PEOPLE I'll gladly share the moral high ground with you.

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« Reply #94 on: August 23, 2013, 05:25:56 AM »
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Two niggers beat a WWII veteran to death.
http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/elderly-man-dies-after-being-attacked-outside-ice-arena/-/101214/21574858/-/9flm7iz/-/index.html

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Spokane police are looking for two male suspects in the attack. They said the suspects are African Americans between 16 and 19 years old. One suspect was described as heavy set and wearing all black clothing. The other was described as being about 6 feet tall and 150 pounds. There was no description of what clothing the second suspect was wearing other than a silk do-rag.




one line.  one lousy fucking line to describe TNB.  MSM actively suppressing thug-lite behavior.  "Remain calm.  All is well!"

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/23/20145461-wwii-vet-88-brutally-beaten-to-death-in-spokane-wash?lite

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WWII vet, 88, brutally beaten to death in Spokane, Wash.


An 88-year-old wounded veteran of World War II died Thursday after he was brutally beaten, apparently at random, in the parking lot of his lodge in Spokane, Wash., authorities said.

Spokane police said they were seeking two suspects in the attack Wednesday night on Delbert "Shorty" Belton, a retired aluminum company worker who'd lived in the city for most of his life after he was discharged from the Army after the war. Belton died of his injuries Thursday morning, police said.

The suspects were described as black males of average build, 16 to 19 years old, wearing black clothing and red sneakers. Police Lt. Mark Griffiths said they apparently attacked Belton at random.

"It appears he was assaulted in the parking lot, and there was no indication that he would have known these people prior to the assault," Griffiths said at a news conference.

Police released these surveillance camera photos Thursday of two young men believed to be the suspects in the beating death of Delbert Belton of Spokane, Wash.



As police released surveillance camera photos of two young men believed to be the suspects, a makeshift memorial overflowing with flowers, U.S. flags and messages of sympathy sprouted Thursday outside the Eagles Lodge in North Spokane.

Friends and family remembered Belton as a warm, generous man who helped many people over the years.

Belton was waiting for a friend at the lodge because he didn't want her to walk in alone, Lillian Duncan, a longtime friend, told the Spokesman-Review of Spokane.

"He was so awesome," Duncan told the newspaper. "Anybody that didn't get to know him missed out on a wonderful angel in their life."

Many others told similar stories.

"If it wouldn't have been for him, I wouldn't have been able to get my life straight," Belton's great-nephew Allen Hills told NBC station KHQ of Spokane. Hills said he had hit bottom about 10 years ago in California, where he was unemployed and sleeping on his mother's sofa. That's when his great-uncle stepped in with the offer of a car and a new life in Washington state.  "It seems trivial, but he really did save my life," Hills said. "He made it possible for me to get a job and find work."

Ted Dennison, a friend, called Belton "a tough old bird" who was shot in the leg in the 1945 Battle of Okinawa. His experiences in the war didn't appear to have dampened Belton's instinct to help others, Denison said.   "He was always there any time I needed anything," Denison told KHQ.

Belton died the same day another Spokane man was killed in a confrontation with police, a manifestation of what Hills said was the "senseless violence" plaguing the city of 210,000 in eastern Washington.

"It's too much, and it's constant and never-ending," said Hills, who said Belton was just the latest victim.  "He wasn't just my great-uncle," Hills said. "He was a great person, and he didn't deserve to die like that."


real tuff street niggers, beating up an 88 y/o man



anytime the US wants to start up the nigger extermination camps, I'm happy to help with devising the most painful methods possible
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« Reply #95 on: August 23, 2013, 05:50:29 AM »
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anytime the US wants to start up the nigger extermination camps, I'm happy to help with devising the most painful methods possible

I'm more than happy to help.

I can't believe these fucking nigs. Some fucking savages beat the shit out of a poor old man, who actually served his fucking country. I hope those pieces of shit drown on their own blood while being set on fire.

Those fucking jungle bunnies should have been culled at birth. They will never contribute anything to this country, and even took away someone who not only served his country, but paid taxes, helped his friends, and was by all accounts, a stand-up guy.

I hope they are caught, and I hope they are locked up. Washington has the death penalty. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. When is this country going to wake up and realize that they are delivering the lives of real Americans(those who actually and actively contribute to society)into the hands of the parasitical filth?
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« Reply #96 on: August 23, 2013, 09:23:09 AM »
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Regardless of what is to be done or not done about private gun sales, does anyone think that the background check that exists for commercial sales should include mental health records? You don't get your driving license renewed if you have Parkinson's, and you shouldn't get to buy guns if you need a cocktail of anti-psychotics to not hulk out on your daily commute. Plus the average nutso is less likely than the average felon to know someone who sells illegal guns.

btw I agree with what Soul Tran said - for privacy's sake, gun resellers don't need to know anything more about their customer's background check than "YES" or "NO"

Yes and no. It would be a good idea in theory, but in practice because we have a psychiatry industry that encourages every American to think they have at least some mental health issues, it would have to be severely limited. Like only if they have been committed for schizophrenia, self harm, delusion, psychotic break, etc. Not depression or whatever.

And I'm curious...those of you who want to "kill all the nigs"--what is your actual final solution? Like serious question, without hyperbole, if you were King President tomm, what would you do? Sterilize all blacks? Deport them? Put them in camps forever? Mass murder them? What about half blacks, quarter, octoroons, etc--at what point is someone "not black" enough for said laws to apply? I'm not looking to make some devastating liberal comeback here; I'm genuinely curious.

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« Reply #97 on: August 23, 2013, 10:11:21 AM »
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And I'm curious...those of you who want to "kill all the nigs"--what is your actual final solution? Like serious question, without hyperbole, if you were King President tomm, what would you do? Sterilize all blacks? Deport them? Put them in camps forever? Mass murder them? What about half blacks, quarter, octoroons, etc--at what point is someone "not black" enough for said laws to apply? I'm not looking to make some devastating liberal comeback here; I'm genuinely curious.

hahaha.  niggers are cultural, not racial, you boob.  it's a dumb question, because you're asking for some organized response along racial lines, as if there were one, and the powers-that-be had the will to implement it.

lemme axe you a quession: have you ever in your professional career worked with someone that looks like this



ignore the prison scrubs and the jailhouse line up. was it somehow your fault if you haven't?

i've worked with one.  in (an embarrassingly large number) of years spent professionally, I've worked with one black man in an STEM field, who's work was adequate to stand on his own and not a token hire or internship shoved into a close to count resistors.  this guy was already a graybeard when i met him, but he was savvy and dedicated in his own way (but slow as fuckin' molasses) and had likely seen more than his fair share of the early civil rights days, but he did the shawshank and came through his shit to be clean on the other side.

but that's one.  in multiple jobs on 3 continents.  we're talking less than 0.0001% of the total professionals i've come across.  one in ten thousand.  sure blacks are a minority, and of that number, a small fraction are white collar professionals. and of that fraction, how many are in STEM?  but 1-in-10k odds?  or less? this isn't "poor culture". this isn't whitey keepin a man down style of oppression.  there is something fundamentally wrong here and it's not getting better.

hire this kid, or his brother.  or cousin.  tell me how he does and how he's just misunderstood.

now, you wanna push for a final solution (and it will come to that, as all collapsing nations do)? fine. 

here's my scenario: corporations doing business in the united states are required to employ a minimum of 20% of their global workforce in the continental US, with a percentage of that as skilled labor.  military as a vocation is not considered here.

mandatory school for all youth (regardless of race).  complete an academic or vocational trade until your 21st birthday.  pass your aptitude/competency exams and go to work.  fail or washout, and you're conscripted to ten years in an overseas goodwill program (think peacecorp but in worse shitholes, as the US has a lot of goodwill it needs to buy) .  reject that or get arrested before completing your training, and snipsnip, no kids for you. you will contribute to the betterment of your country and culture or you're not worth passing along.

 how's that? autocratic enough to get your panties wadded?


Goddamnit E/N.

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Re: THE STRUGGLE
« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2013, 12:01:51 PM »
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And I'm curious...those of you who want to "kill all the nigs"--what is your actual final solution? Like serious question, without hyperbole, if you were King President tomm, what would you do? Sterilize all blacks? Deport them? Put them in camps forever? Mass murder them? What about half blacks, quarter, octoroons, etc--at what point is someone "not black" enough for said laws to apply? I'm not looking to make some devastating liberal comeback here; I'm genuinely curious.

hahaha.  niggers are cultural, not racial, you boob.  it's a dumb question, because you're asking for some organized response along racial lines, as if there were one, and the powers-that-be had the will to implement it.

lemme axe you a quession: have you ever in your professional career worked with someone that looks like this



ignore the prison scrubs and the jailhouse line up. was it somehow your fault if you haven't?

i've worked with one.  in (an embarrassingly large number) of years spent professionally, I've worked with one black man in an STEM field, who's work was adequate to stand on his own and not a token hire or internship shoved into a close to count resistors.  this guy was already a graybeard when i met him, but he was savvy and dedicated in his own way (but slow as fuckin' molasses) and had likely seen more than his fair share of the early civil rights days, but he did the shawshank and came through his shit to be clean on the other side.

but that's one.  in multiple jobs on 3 continents.  we're talking less than 0.0001% of the total professionals i've come across.  one in ten thousand.  sure blacks are a minority, and of that number, a small fraction are white collar professionals. and of that fraction, how many are in STEM?  but 1-in-10k odds?  or less? this isn't "poor culture". this isn't whitey keepin a man down style of oppression.  there is something fundamentally wrong here and it's not getting better.

hire this kid, or his brother.  or cousin.  tell me how he does and how he's just misunderstood.

now, you wanna push for a final solution (and it will come to that, as all collapsing nations do)? fine. 

here's my scenario: corporations doing business in the united states are required to employ a minimum of 20% of their global workforce in the continental US, with a percentage of that as skilled labor.  military as a vocation is not considered here.

mandatory school for all youth (regardless of race).  complete an academic or vocational trade until your 21st birthday.  pass your aptitude/competency exams and go to work.  fail or washout, and you're conscripted to ten years in an overseas goodwill program (think peacecorp but in worse shitholes, as the US has a lot of goodwill it needs to buy) .  reject that or get arrested before completing your training, and snipsnip, no kids for you. you will contribute to the betterment of your country and culture or you're not worth passing along.

 how's that? autocratic enough to get your panties wadded?

Calm down son. I actually agree with most of what you say (except for the government sterilization program because what the fuck). And I have worked with people like that...I managed retail stores and was once transferred to a high volume ghetto store.

Stuff like what you say, looking at it from the education aspect and treating all poor and uneducated folk with the same brush, is pretty reasonable. The far left would still find a way to hate it, but I think it would work.

I was more asking the people who are dyed in the wool "nope, blacks are genetically inferior in intelligence and predicated by their genes to be lazy, violent, etc" what they would propose as a solution to fix the US. I probably wouldn't agree but I'd like to get past the hyperbole and have an actual dialogue.

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Re: THE STRUGGLE
« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2013, 12:14:09 PM »
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Form the Republic of New Afrika and bus them all there.