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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #50 on: February 26, 2019, 11:10:32 AM »
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Has Kim Jon Juan has been overthrown yet or everyone just realized that the country is too shitty to invade?

My theory is that Trump will allow goods manufactured in North Korea into the US in exchange for total denuclearisation. The North Koreans are so poor that they'll work for fractions of a US dollar a day, however the infusion of that teeny-tiny bit of money is enough to keep them from starving, and they'll be exponentially better off than they are now, so the Koreans are happy. The cost of cheap manufactured goods at the Dollar General goes down and thus the cost of living as a result, and the US government can now sell bonds to North Korea who now possesses American currency and can continue to go heavily into debt without firing up the printing presses, allowing them to keep giving out gimmedats while maintaining status as the reserve currency, and so the American people are happy. Trump fucks China without having to leave tariffs in place or firing a single shot, and the only ones that get fucked besides China are people who aren't born yet who will have to deal with the massive debt of the US government down the road.
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2019, 11:27:34 AM »
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #52 on: February 26, 2019, 09:21:03 PM »
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Has Kim Jon Juan has been overthrown yet or everyone just realized that the country is too shitty to invade?

My theory is that Trump will allow goods manufactured in North Korea into the US in exchange for total denuclearisation. The North Koreans are so poor that they'll work for fractions of a US dollar a day, however the infusion of that teeny-tiny bit of money is enough to keep them from starving, and they'll be exponentially better off than they are now, so the Koreans are happy. The cost of cheap manufactured goods at the Dollar General goes down and thus the cost of living as a result, and the US government can now sell bonds to North Korea who now possesses American currency and can continue to go heavily into debt without firing up the printing presses, allowing them to keep giving out gimmedats while maintaining status as the reserve currency, and so the American people are happy. Trump fucks China without having to leave tariffs in place or firing a single shot, and the only ones that get fucked besides China are people who aren't born yet who will have to deal with the massive debt of the US government down the road.

He meant Maduro you sperg.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2019, 05:10:36 AM »
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2019, 11:54:53 AM »
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Has Kim Jon Juan has been overthrown yet or everyone just realized that the country is too shitty to invade?

My theory is that Trump will allow goods manufactured in North Korea into the US in exchange for total denuclearisation. The North Koreans are so poor that they'll work for fractions of a US dollar a day, however the infusion of that teeny-tiny bit of money is enough to keep them from starving, and they'll be exponentially better off than they are now, so the Koreans are happy. The cost of cheap manufactured goods at the Dollar General goes down and thus the cost of living as a result, and the US government can now sell bonds to North Korea who now possesses American currency and can continue to go heavily into debt without firing up the printing presses, allowing them to keep giving out gimmedats while maintaining status as the reserve currency, and so the American people are happy. Trump fucks China without having to leave tariffs in place or firing a single shot, and the only ones that get fucked besides China are people who aren't born yet who will have to deal with the massive debt of the US government down the road.

He meant Maduro you sperg.

My theory is that Trump will allow goods manufactured in North Korea Venezuelan oil into the US in exchange for total denuclearisation in exchange for open elections. The North Koreans Venezuelans are so poor that they'll work for fractions of a US dollar a day, however the infusion of that teeny-tiny bit of money is enough to keep them from starving, and they'll be exponentially better off than they are now, so the Koreans Venezuelans are happy. The cost of cheap manufactured goods at the Dollar General gas goes down and thus the cost of living as a result, and the US government can now sell bonds to North Korea Venezuela who now possesses American currency and can continue to go heavily into debt without firing up the printing presses, allowing them to keep giving out gimmedats while maintaining status as the reserve currency, and so the American people are happy. Trump fucks China Canada without having to leave tariffs in place or firing a single shot, and the only ones that get fucked besides China Canada are people who aren't born yet who will have to deal with the massive debt of the US government down the road.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #55 on: February 27, 2019, 10:15:13 PM »
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2019, 05:00:15 AM »
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More nothing is happening; just more dead spics, so no news really is good news. 
Most of the world's diplomatic attention is being devoted to India and Pakistan squaring off for a proper chimp out. This is also reducing the odds of the US getting involved as India-Pakistan is more strategically important.

Brazil, the violent and corrupt shithole of the south, their VP in an interview said that they wouldn't allow the US use their territory to invade Venezuela. Which is pretty rich because A) the US has no military presence in Brazil and has expressed zero interest in trying to use their shit infrastructure and B) why would they when Best-Bro Columbia is right there, running all the same equipement as the US military and super happy to take US money and join in on curb stomping Venezuela as payback for sheltering FARC.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2019, 10:36:14 AM »
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More nothing is happening; just more dead spics, so no news really is good news.
Can you discuss more in depth the racial makeup of Venezuela? I know that they aren't all Amerinds and Mestizo.
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #58 on: February 28, 2019, 12:48:16 PM »
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Can you discuss more in depth the racial makeup of Venezuela? I know that they aren't all Amerinds and Mestizo.

I don't know too much specifics but there's not much to go over racially:
South America is divided into (roughly) 4 areas, based on how the area was carved up by the European powers.
Gran-Columbia (Spanish)
Brazil ( Portugeuse)
Southern (AKA the Ghetto Backwoods Spain)
Caribbean (AKA everyone who wasn't spanish or portugeuse.)

Venezuela fell under the Gran-Columbia, where in the cosmopolitan areas they were as much Spanish as the 13 colonies were English. Gran-Columbia got independence, in the early part of the 1800s; when it fell apart about 20 years later, Venezuela got its independence as did several other countries.

So to the West they have Columbia, where the most infusion of Conquistador skeet happened. To east they have the "Caribbean Shield" of the English and French territories. To the south, Brazil. For whatever reason, the (largely nigger, spic, and nigger-spic based) people to the east never really went into Venezuela. To the south, you have Indian tribes that they share with Brazil. Whitey never really made in to those areas, or bothered to stick around - its shitty jungle; not good for farming, not really good for mining (historically, at least). To the west, out in the hills, you have a general intermingling of Incan squat-shitter genes with the occasional injection of some shitty Moorish descendant spic genes.

Now, in the cities, or more specifically in Caracas, you have an urban-Columbia/Argentian type of concentration of genes from the portions of Spain that weren't over run with Moorish niggers from Africa. This has been enhanced with concentrated injections of American petrochemical engineer dick from about the 1900s to around the 1990s - especially in the 1960s and 70s when Venezuela was trying to get the Oil companies to integrate into the country more. Its still going on a bit, but since the 1992 coup the country has been much less stable and the oil companies have been sending in less people, keeping them in more isolated and protected areas.

The only real take away about Venezeula's racial make up is that the jungle indians, like everywhere, are small in number, remote, and shit on politically. Other than that, there aren't really any racial divides, only socio-economic ones. Though also like everywhere, usually the whiter you the more well-off you are.
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2019, 03:31:42 PM »
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Another perspective
https://www.telesurenglish.net/opinion/John-Pilger-The-War-on-Venezuela-Is-Built-on-Lies-20190223-0023.html

Basically, looks like the country is shit no matter who's in power


  [L.N.E]Giblets [22|Dec 10:40 AM]:   hey mushroom remember that day we were strugging and dog-o was like I'M GONNA PULL THE FUCKIN' PLUG and we both went "do it" and he just kinda limped out that was a good day and I guess what I'm saying is, well, we've not always seen eye to eye but I think our emotional bond is way deeper and stronger than any old nonsense about ideology or my low testosterone or your ridiculous handsomeness and wit and, well, it's long overdue, but David Mushroom Hedgehogstein, will you marry me?

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #60 on: February 28, 2019, 03:55:48 PM »
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Pilger's still around? Haven't heard that name in like a decade.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #61 on: February 28, 2019, 04:47:05 PM »
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Another perspective
https://www.telesurenglish.net/opinion/John-Pilger-The-War-on-Venezuela-Is-Built-on-Lies-20190223-0023.html

Basically, looks like the country is shit no matter who's in power

LOL, fucking Dave Nigger sucking the dick of socialist lies. Of Course.

Ignore anything about Democracy; Chavez stuffed the ballot boxes and bought votes. Very literally. He also made sure opposition votes "got lost" or were ruled uncountable.

The "new constitution" is a fucking travesty, but I wouldn't expect any Britbong to be able to read anything they're signing. While this useful idiot was sucking off Chavez, Chavez was funneling billions to family members so they could hide it overseas. He reduced income inequality by making everyone outside of the government's inner circle completely broke.

The sanctions being applied were because Chavez & his cronies were stealing to fuel buying votes for the poors, and for trying to buy tractors for people too dumb to drive them. International courts agree, there is a 1 trillion judgement that the new government can look forward to being on the hook for.

The country is going to be shit no matter who takes over that much is true. But once the current socialists are booted out, there's a small chance it might get better. Maybe.

The only thing that faggot,  Davefaggot, and I agree on is there should not be any American lives lost, or even put in risk of being lost, to restore freedom to the worthless spics who allowed them to be taken from them.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #62 on: February 28, 2019, 05:26:03 PM »
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Another perspective
https://www.telesurenglish.net/opinion/John-Pilger-The-War-on-Venezuela-Is-Built-on-Lies-20190223-0023.html

Basically, looks like the country is shit no matter who's in power

LOL, fucking Dave Nigger sucking the dick of socialist lies. Of Course.

Ignore anything about Democracy; Chavez stuffed the ballot boxes and bought votes. Very literally. He also made sure opposition votes "got lost" or were ruled uncountable.

The "new constitution" is a fucking travesty, but I wouldn't expect any Britbong to be able to read anything they're signing. While this useful idiot was sucking off Chavez, Chavez was funneling billions to family members so they could hide it overseas. He reduced income inequality by making everyone outside of the government's inner circle completely broke.

The sanctions being applied were because Chavez & his cronies were stealing to fuel buying votes for the poors, and for trying to buy tractors for people too dumb to drive them. International courts agree, there is a 1 trillion judgement that the new government can look forward to being on the hook for.

The country is going to be shit no matter who takes over that much is true. But once the current socialists are booted out, there's a small chance it might get better. Maybe.

The only thing that faggot,  Davefaggot, and I agree on is there should not be any American lives lost, or even put in risk of being lost, to restore freedom to the worthless spics who allowed them to be taken from them.
Where am I sucking the dick of socialist lies. I always look at the other side to see if I can figure out an approximation of the truth. The US was decrying Chavez as the next Hitler pretty much from day one and that never sat well with me tbh.
There's no denying that life was shit under the previous corrupt regime that just so happened to be BFF's with Washington, it got slightly better under Chavez, then when the shit hit the fan with oil and stuff, it went to hell in a handbasket. I checked the quote by Jimmy Cater about the voting system in VZ being the best in the world and it checks out...machine voting AND ballot boxes where paper slips have to match electronic records to be counted, so I doubt Chavez needed to stuff the ballot box. But yea, he bought votes by distributing wealth all over the place.

I don't think there's ever been a time where things were good in VZ, and you know, I couldn't really give a shit. I mean I care more about it than say, Niger, but it's in the same general area as not giving a fuckness.


  [L.N.E]Giblets [22|Dec 10:40 AM]:   hey mushroom remember that day we were strugging and dog-o was like I'M GONNA PULL THE FUCKIN' PLUG and we both went "do it" and he just kinda limped out that was a good day and I guess what I'm saying is, well, we've not always seen eye to eye but I think our emotional bond is way deeper and stronger than any old nonsense about ideology or my low testosterone or your ridiculous handsomeness and wit and, well, it's long overdue, but David Mushroom Hedgehogstein, will you marry me?

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #63 on: February 28, 2019, 07:28:25 PM »
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Where am I sucking the dick of socialist lies. I always look at the other side to see if I can figure out an approximation of the truth. The US was decrying Chavez as the next Hitler pretty much from day one and that never sat well with me tbh.
There's no denying that life was shit under the previous corrupt regime that just so happened to be BFF's with Washington, it got slightly better under Chavez, then when the shit hit the fan with oil and stuff, it went to hell in a handbasket. I checked the quote by Jimmy Cater about the voting system in VZ being the best in the world and it checks out...machine voting AND ballot boxes where paper slips have to match electronic records to be counted, so I doubt Chavez needed to stuff the ballot box. But yea, he bought votes by distributing wealth all over the place.

I don't think there's ever been a time where things were good in VZ, and you know, I couldn't really give a shit. I mean I care more about it than say, Niger, but it's in the same general area as not giving a fuckness.

Chavez was the next Hitler, right down to being elected after being imprisoned for a failed coup. The only difference is there were no jews to exterminate, so he just decided the jews were anyone who didn't blindly vote for him, and set about exterminating them. He army was also regrettably staffed with spics and not germans, so when he tried to take over Guyana or even dick wave at Columbia, it didn't go very well for him.
He's like a lazier, more incompetent Hitler. Truly, Spic Hitler.

It did not get better for the country, period. Things for the poor got slightly better as he bought their votes with money that he diverted from maintaining the country's infrastructuring, including the infrastructure that pumped the oil they needed to remain solvent.

The administration from the 90s was pretty shit, I'll grant you, but zero people were starving to death in the street. I mean, I guess as our resident Marxist you prefer that EVERYONE (Well everyone who isn't in the goverment or a family member) is dying from lack of access to basic medicine & medical care instead of just the poors & indians as it is more equitable that way. They were also at least putting people with college degrees in charge of the petroleum infrastructure so it didn't rot from lack of maintenance, insuring there was an economy for at least some people.

Life was better for everyone who isn't a government official or relative in any time before Chavez. That article isn't the other side, its a cum stain on that dude's collar from sucking off Chavez.

The electronic & paper ballots only work when the election workers aren't sent out to a village, told "1,400 live here" and then come back with 1,400 chavez votes as they press Chavez 1,400 times.

I understand you view any country where you can't get regular injections of hot arab cock shooting goat-scented jizz into your boipussy as "a represive hellhole", but you must understand that you're the minority here.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #64 on: February 28, 2019, 11:13:15 PM »
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yes, press Chavez 1400 times with 1400 different fingerprints  :stewart:
Chavez simply manages to appeal to the population that previously were not politically active through populist campaigns, while the opposition bickered and fought shitty campaigns. He didn't need to stuff the box.


  [L.N.E]Giblets [22|Dec 10:40 AM]:   hey mushroom remember that day we were strugging and dog-o was like I'M GONNA PULL THE FUCKIN' PLUG and we both went "do it" and he just kinda limped out that was a good day and I guess what I'm saying is, well, we've not always seen eye to eye but I think our emotional bond is way deeper and stronger than any old nonsense about ideology or my low testosterone or your ridiculous handsomeness and wit and, well, it's long overdue, but David Mushroom Hedgehogstein, will you marry me?

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2019, 05:55:36 AM »
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No really news to report other than more spics dying of starvation before diabetes can get them.

There have been more trips by the Russian 777 to Caracas; its general accepted that the plane is carrying gold that Maduro is looting from their reserves, but no one knows why or what specific end. He's either trying to buy enough supplies to keep clutching power for another couple days, or he's setting up a nest egg. MAybe both.

I guess I shouldn't be shocked things are dragging out this long, as I thought this would happened 6 years ago, but maybe you just can't churro the Maduro.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2019, 09:52:09 PM »
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2019, 03:12:35 AM »
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Another perspective
https://www.telesurenglish.net/opinion/John-Pilger-The-War-on-Venezuela-Is-Built-on-Lies-20190223-0023.html

Basically, looks like the country is shit no matter who's in power


Isn't this a propaganda outlet?
No idea, was looking at the journalist, Pilger, who has his ups and downs, but is pretty well respected in the UK.
Isn't most media these days propaganda in some form or another?


  [L.N.E]Giblets [22|Dec 10:40 AM]:   hey mushroom remember that day we were strugging and dog-o was like I'M GONNA PULL THE FUCKIN' PLUG and we both went "do it" and he just kinda limped out that was a good day and I guess what I'm saying is, well, we've not always seen eye to eye but I think our emotional bond is way deeper and stronger than any old nonsense about ideology or my low testosterone or your ridiculous handsomeness and wit and, well, it's long overdue, but David Mushroom Hedgehogstein, will you marry me?

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2019, 10:30:32 PM »
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UK respects a socialist """reporter"""" giving fellating - like deep throat, cupping the balls, the works - a communist who tanked his economy handing out gibs, holding him out as a shining model to follow. Shock of the fucking century there.

Anyway, minor happening that isn't Davenigger continuing to out himself as a zero-perspective commicuck:
Gauido, the opposition leader/Opposition president/recognized by half the world as Venezeula's leader, returned to Venezuela after a trip to Columbia to meet with the US and other regional non-cucked less-cucked governments. He flew back into Caracas, which took some brass balls as he flew right into the heart of Maduro control. He's still safe, but there's a good chance he might turn into a martyr for the cause, as he's basically daring Maduro to arrest him.




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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #69 on: March 05, 2019, 05:30:10 AM »
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Another perspective
https://www.telesurenglish.net/opinion/John-Pilger-The-War-on-Venezuela-Is-Built-on-Lies-20190223-0023.html

Basically, looks like the country is shit no matter who's in power


Isn't this a propaganda outlet?
No idea, was looking at the journalist, Pilger, who has his ups and downs, but is pretty well respected in the UK.
Isn't most media these days propaganda in some form or another?

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Telesur (stylised as teleSUR) is a Latin American terrestrial and satellite television network headquartered in Caracas, Venezuela and sponsored primarily by the government of Venezuela,[2] with additional funding from the governments of Cuba, Nicaragua, Uruguay, and Bolivia.[3] It was launched in 2005, under the government of Hugo Chavez, with the aim of being "a Latin socialist answer to CNN".[2]

And for a couple of examples of how this plays out in practice:

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In October 2018, Telesur anchor Daniela Vielman resigned from the network, releasing a statement saying that staff employed by Telesur are "treated as if they were working in a political party" and that Venezuelan employees were paid in low-value Venezuelan bolívars compared to their foreign counterparts who were being paid in US dollars.[34]

During the 2019 shipping of humanitarian aid to Venezuela, Telesur disseminated manipulated photos of protesters attempting to douse out flames of a burning aid truck according to the author of the images.[32]

Now, biased outlets report facts so that the wholesale dismissal of a report merely on the basis of source is usually an overreaction (you get this to some degree from both sides, although my personal recollection is seeing far more 'Ugh, a right wing source' as if that means a story is totally without basis, rather than just being slanted than dismissal of centre-left MSM sources); still, any claim by Telesur looks like it should be scrutinised pretty closely...

Accepting that Wikipedia is being reasonably accurate in what I've quoted, anyway.
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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #70 on: March 05, 2019, 10:56:45 AM »
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They copy and pasted from Pilger's blog as did a bunch of others. This was just one link on google that i copy pasted
http://johnpilger.com/articles/the-war-on-venezuela-is-built-on-lies
source.


  [L.N.E]Giblets [22|Dec 10:40 AM]:   hey mushroom remember that day we were strugging and dog-o was like I'M GONNA PULL THE FUCKIN' PLUG and we both went "do it" and he just kinda limped out that was a good day and I guess what I'm saying is, well, we've not always seen eye to eye but I think our emotional bond is way deeper and stronger than any old nonsense about ideology or my low testosterone or your ridiculous handsomeness and wit and, well, it's long overdue, but David Mushroom Hedgehogstein, will you marry me?

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #71 on: March 05, 2019, 11:37:13 AM »
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Pilger is a tankie, fwiw.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #72 on: March 05, 2019, 01:22:31 PM »
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So far very slow day. Guaido remains both un-arrested and un-killed. Wikipedia has updated to list him as president; Maduro BTFO.
This extremely woke action by Wikipedia hasn't gotten any food aid into the country, spics still starving and dying of seizures.

Pilger is a tankie, fwiw.

I dunno what other sort of sources you were expecting from noted Britcuck Davenigger.
Its like quoting the Flat Earth Newsletter to "provide a different perspective" on a story about the latest SpaceX launch; you're either a minimum-effort troll or a retard.

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2019, 07:28:36 AM »
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Another day, more dead spics, but really nothing else.

Venezeula has begun diverting tankers of their shit oil to India so India can fail to refine it properly. This is bad news as India ain't paying in advance, and the transit times are much longer.

They've apparently been doing at-sea transfers to Saudi tankers to try to keep the wheels on. I haven't seen anything about goods & gas going into Venezeula, and I've asked some turboautists at KF to look into it. If they find anything, I'll be sure to pull a Brown Moses and post it here like its stuff I found by myself and then launch a kickstarter so I can be a lazy worthless at-home dad manchild while my wife works a day job.

I'm really torn on how the media is handling Venezuela. On one hand, people (ok, spics) are dying needlessly because a tyrant refuses to cede control. On the other hand, if the media did any actual reporting on the situation, America would be forced to act and pointlessly spend American dollars and lives so the next wave of corrupt dictators can take over. So maybe its for the best that the media is again trying to sweep another failure of socialism under the rug.


Anyway, on this slow news day, have some reading about how in 2012, Venezeulans allowed the government to disarm them, ensuring that as food became scarce and the country imploded, they had no means to confront the government.
https://fee.org/articles/gun-control-preceded-the-tyranny-in-venezuela/

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Re: That's not REAL Socialism: Venezuela Thread
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2019, 07:36:51 AM »
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Actually let me spell out precisely how amazing Venezeula's gun ban was, since the time table of events might be lost on some folks:

The ban was enacted in 2012, over a decade after Chavez had taken over and tanked the economy. The worsening economy meant people were increasingly turning to illegal activity for money: Drugs, murder, robberies. It also meant the police were susceptible to corruption, so taking the law into your own hands might be a preferable way to resolve a dispute instead of trying to bribe a cop to do his job.
This rising violence was the reason given for taking guns from citizens.
The violence caused by the bad economy.
The bad economy a result of retarded decisions by the government.
The same government that took their guns and left them unable to fight back.

Fair well and ado to you fair spanish ladies.
Fair well and ado you ladies of spain.
For we've recieved orders we're to sail back to Boston...